What does an American's middle name mean? American female names

Lucia, 11.12.04 19:23

Here I read: Julia Roberts gave birth to twins. The boy was named Finnaeus Walter, the girl Hazel Patricia.
I don’t understand why some people give a single name and others a double name. And in which countries is this accepted, well, probably in America for sure, and what does it mean? How will the child be called later, by the first part of the name, then why the second, and if both parts, then in my opinion, this is not convenient. Explain here pls.

Alina, 11.12.04 19:44

Lucia
We can give a child from one to three names. Mine one husband, but children have three (1. Kasper Valtteri Evgeniy, 2. Hannu Elmeri Elius 3. Eetu August Oliver) But in Finland there is no middle name. I don’t know why, but there are so many names, so that when a child grows up and if he doesn’t like his name, he can take from his two or three names the one he likes. The average one has Hanna first in his passport, but at home we call him Elmery. That’s how it is with us

Kriksi-Kraksi, 12.12.04 01:08

We will have double name(Stephanie-Maria) because we like Stefanie, and Maria is the name of both my and my husband’s grandmother, she is very symbolic and the grannies are happy (though my husband is Maria-Katharina) .... and for some reason I always wanted to double name...

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:16

Lucia
During my second pregnancy I was looking for a baby english names that I would like and found very interesting article. Here's a quote from there:
“Traditionally, in English-speaking countries, a child receives two names at birth: a personal name (first name) and a middle name (middle name). The first, personal name seems to be the most important and significant. The term “personal name” is understood primarily “ individual naming of the subject" (A.V. Speranskaya), officially assigned to him at birth. Of all onomastic categories, personal names were the first to receive documentary reflection. They were based on appellatives, which were used as nicknames to designate people. As noted by A.V. Speranskaya, and in our time "personal names differ from nicknames mainly in that in the former the common noun meaning of the stems is not as obvious as in the latter. In nicknames it is always fresh... In personal names the common noun meaning of the stems is almost always obscured. Nicknames each time they are created again, personal names are passed on from generation to generation...” The article itself is very long, with an analysis of which names appeared when and under what influence.

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:22

According to statistics, all English children receive two names at birth (first + middle names): personal and middle. The custom of giving a child a middle name goes back to the tradition of assigning several personal names to a newborn. In modern English naming books, cases of assigning two or three middle names are more common than the complete absence of a middle name. Although there is no law limiting the number of middle names, more than four additional middle names are usually not assigned: Charles Philip Arthur George, Andrew Albert Christian Edward, Edward Antony Richard Louis, Anne Elisabeth Alice Louise. The role of the middle name at present is to serve as an additional individualizing sign, especially for persons who have widespread first and last names. Both personal names and geographical names are used as middle names, common nouns and so on. Often the surnames of the people in whose honor it is assigned are used as middle names..

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:26

Quotes taken: O.A. Leonovich chapter from the book "In the World of English Names".

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:29

If interested, I can send the entire article privately.

ELLE, 12.12.04 02:41

Lucia
in France there are double, triple and even four names at once, but all this is in official papers, but in life everyone is called by their first name.
My daughter has triples and my husband has four.

vishenka, 12.12.04 02:48

I named my daughter Jacqueline-Lydia. The first name is a personal name, and Lydia is a middle name, in honor of our Russian grandmother.

This is the American-Russian version

ElenaDK, 12.12.04 14:28

Lucia

My friends (in America) gave their daughter a double name so that she could then choose for herself what she likes best

It went, 12.12.04 14:44

In Israel, especially in religious families, children are often given double names. This is especially common if they want to name a child in honor of a deceased relative, but he had an “unmodern” name. The first name is chosen whichever parents liked, and the second - in honor of a deceased relative or some righteous person.
In Judaism, every name has a meaning, and if a person is given a name, then it must be used, otherwise there is no point in giving it. There are families where children are called by two names, and there are those where they alternate.
We have Netanel Chaim, Netanel - we just liked it, Chaim is in honor of my dad. (Dad’s name was Vitaly, Chaim and it means “life”). We also try to use the name Chaim sometimes.
In general, I have met children here with both 3 and 5 names. There's no limit

Marinka, 12.12.04 15:22

You know, I understand if double names are given by parents related to the Catholic or Protestant faith.... But here we have friends... purely Orthodox and Russian... and I can’t understand why they have children suddenly with double names... Like Martin Julius....

It went, 12.12.04 15:27

Marinka
and why not - maybe this is a tribute to the traditions of the country in which they live?

Lucia, 12.12.04 15:31

Thanks girls. All this is interesting.
NENE'S MUM Thank you. Well, I probably don’t need the whole article, I’m just interested out of curiosity.

Anna, 12.12.04 15:50

NENE'S MUM

And I'm editing now new book O.A. Leonovich (although she’s not talking about names)! Cool author!

I like double names, but in Russia they are not very common... only if they are very simple like Anna-Maria

Darel, 12.12.04 16:55

Marinka
We are Orthodox and are just thinking about double names for our children (we are still planning), just to make it better for everyone. Those. one secular name, easily pronounced in English and other languages, and the second orthodox name, for baptism, home and family. Only we have not yet decided to enter one name into the certificate, baptize another, or both names into the certificate. And while there is time, we are considering other options. For example, call it Euphrosyne (record and baptize), and for the locals Francis.

If I answer in general, then it seems to me that this is often just a way out, like
vishenka- both ours and yours.
And I also have a friend who is always called by his middle name, when I saw his first name in official papers - I laughed like crazy - it doesn’t suit him at all, but the middle name really does. Although his parents called him first, he grew up and renamed himself - freedom of choice, so to speak, is also good.

Christina, 12.12.04 23:38

We have a daughter, Anna-Maria. Anna-very simple...

We just couldn’t decide for a long time what to name our daughter - Anna or Maria? We didn’t know who would exactly be born, and we weren’t sure that there would be a girl, so we didn’t choose for sure. And when I was born, it became clear that I needed to make a decision. And already in the maternity hospital, half an hour after her birth, I myself suggested calling her by two names at once. \

But at home we call Anya, Manya, Musya and many other pet names. And my husband often calls Anna-Marie, in the Estonian manner (his mother is Estonian).
And in general, double names have become fashionable here, this is in the tradition of Catholics, I don’t know why!

Darel

By the way, we recently baptized our daughter and I knew that in Orthodoxy you can only baptize with one name, we decided that she would be baptized as Anna. And when we arrived at one church, they looked at the documents and saw that double name, and refused to baptize us! We sorted things out for a long time, had a fight, it was very unpleasant, in the end we went to another church, where we were baptized without any problems.

So, just in case, be prepared for any incidents.

Mermaid, 12.12.04 23:58

I have a daughter, Nicole Maria...
Nicole - it seems like a tricky one. We call Nika, Nikusey...
And Maria is completely international, widespread, biblical name, besides, that was the name of my husband’s grandmother (he is Canadian).

NENE'S MUM, 13.12.04 00:12

Lucia

I'm just curious out of curiosity


So the fact of the matter is that before I read the article, there was some fragmentary information in my head, but it’s written like this - I read it with great interest. Now here it is smart quotes I insert

Darel, 13.12.04 00:29

Christina
Thanks for the advice, we will be prepared and take this into account when choosing.

Lalka, 04.02.05 16:14

I like double names, I just like them, that’s all.
Moreover, now in Belarus (I don’t know how it is in Russia) you can write two names in the metrics at once, separated by a dash. True, we have only come up with a first name for our son - Adam. And we only think about the second: either Adam-Miroslav, or Adam-Stanislav, or Adam-Vincent.
The last idea came to my husband’s mind quite recently, but I actually like it

Lilith, 19.03.05 08:47

I named my daughter Jacqueline-Lydia.


Your daughter's first name is my namesake

And I named my daughter Stella Sofia.
I'll explain why. During pregnancy, my husband and I thought about naming our daughter Sofia, but then, for various reasons, we abandoned this idea.
I wanted something rare and unusual name, but we had disagreements about the last name
Therefore, we found a compromise. I liked the name Stella, but none of my relatives were enthusiastic about it. In addition, we were told that if we initially planned one name, then it had some meaning and we couldn’t refuse it at all
So we named her Stella Sofia. So that everyone is happy

We will baptize by the second name, but call it by the first. It's basic.
That's how things are

Corazon, 08.04.05 17:10

I really like double names! when they go well together, of course... my husband is Giuseppe Angelo (Giuseppe Angelo), and I wanted to name my son Antonio Augusto, but my husband rejected it, said that it turned out too imperially, so he remained just Antonio... which is a pity.. .

Lisa, 08.04.05 17:28

Our young man name is Richard Brian, but Brian is really only on paper.

In fact, my husband has a middle name, like his father, and my father would like to make this a tradition in the male line, and give our son the same middle name, but since I was categorically against it, I myself suggested giving Richard a middle name name, like my grandfather's first name. Although it didn’t turn out his way, it’s also impossible to be offended by this.

scorpion509, 19.04.05 03:27

It is also customary for us to give double names; we will also give our baby a double name.
we want the first name to be Russian (but with English version) and the second is more English.
The first version was Nikita Daniel, but it was rejected because in America Nikita is a female name
We've picked it up now, while Alexey is still thinking about the middle one

Talikoshka, 03.06.05 06:39

Girls, please advise! I really want to name my future child my father’s name, or at least something similar. I am well aware that in modern times, with the name Israel (for a girl - Israel), it is not very comfortable for a child to live in Russia. I read the thread and decided that a double name is a good solution. I would like the first name to be familiar to Russians, but not too common. So far, only Lev Israel has been invented (to be called mainly the first). There are no options for a girl
What do you think?

Evgenievna, 03.06.05 15:30

I really want to name my future child my father’s name, or at least something similar. I am well aware that in modern times, with the name Israel (for a girl - Israel), it is not very comfortable for a child to live in Russia. I read the thread and decided that a double name is a good solution. What do you think?


Question number one: is your dad or the child’s dad? If he has a child, he will still have one in Russia surname, that is, dad's name.
Question number two: are double names registered in Russia?
Opinion: if you want to call it Israel, then call it. Why is it not very comfortable? Many people have lived their lives with this name, and not in Russia, but in the USSR, and nothing. Or are Soviet stereotypes still alive?

Talikoshka, 03.06.05 19:39

Evgenievna, we're talking about about my dad. The patronymic will be an ordinary Russian one, the surname too. All together will sound wild. I don’t have and never had stereotypes, but many people still have them, no doubt about it. I don't want to ruin my child's life. The difficulty is that I don’t really like the name itself, but I loved my dad very much; words cannot describe what he meant to me, and it’s customary for us to keep the name. So I want to call him (and combine it with his middle name) with his first name, and the second one just to have it. ,

For some reason, the name Leah came to mind (since you came up with the name Leo for the boy) - this is a biblical name, and an Orthodox one too (just like Israel).

Are you really sure that Israel is an Orthodox name?

As in other countries, in America there are traditional names, such as Anna, Maria, Emily, Elizabeth, Catherine, John, Robert, Richard, Henry, William and so on. But along with this, there are also completely different ones, for example... Placenta.

The fact is that a child can be called by any name, right? As long as mom and dad like it, right? During the birth process, my mother overheard a conversation between doctors who mentioned the placenta - what a rich word! - and the girl Placenta began to waddle through life. At home, however, her name is most likely Lacey (Placenta - Lacy).

Another mother named her twin boys OrAngelo and LimAngelo, which translated means orange and lemon jelly. Apparently, she really loved this dish. What about the names Carotid and Parotid - also, of course, for twins?

Often names are chosen with a forecast for the future. For example, a boy can be named Lexus. Then, when he grows up, he will definitely start driving a Lexus, which means he will be rich and successful... When I worked in a bank, one of my colleagues was a girl named Special, and her sister was named Precious... Also I was familiar with Cassandra and Kali, who are not directly related to either the Greeks or the Hindus...

On the other hand, Americans have a system of giving two names. Sometimes you come across caring parents, and the second (“middle”) name is given simpler. Then the grown-up child at least has a choice, and the relatives have the same choice. For example, my husband's name is Richard Philip. Depending on the situation, I call him either Richard the Lionheart or Philippok. You can imagine the situations yourself.

In addition, the name is often formed from the initial letters of the first and second name - this is how all sorts of PJs (PJ), Casey (KC), Jayti (JT) and the like are obtained.

If a child was born into a family of descendants of Indian tribes that once inhabited the territory of America, then he (or she) usually receives a “middle” name according to the tradition of the tribe. One of my son's friends was named Nicholas "Cloud", his sister was named Elaina " Moonlight"(Moonlight).

Russian people in America try to name their children with “binational” names - Margarita, Elizaveta, Anastasia, Boris, Alexander, Mikhail. Most interesting name in this regard - Leon, at home - Lenya.

It’s very funny how the name of my son, whose name is Pavel Lishin, has transformed in America. Not only is his name pronounced with emphasis on the second syllable - Pavel, but it is also distorted in a completely unpredictable way. For example, at one time we received many offers for Mr. Lee Shin to sell his Chinese restaurant in Dallas. Probably should have sold...

And at school their son’s name was simply and lovingly - “Commie” - in honor of the country of unvictorious communism, from where he came to the country of undecayed imperialism...

Surely you have ever seen the British or other peoples have a middle name. What it is? How do you get it? Why do the English need a middle name? In this article we will try to answer all these questions.

What is a middle name?

The second name is most often called the middle name. As a rule, it is located between the personal name and surname. The middle name is used in Iceland, Sweden, England and Israel. That is, it is widely used in Europe or various Western countries. It plays in all countries different meaning. The middle name is used as an element of the full name. It can be called a “second personal name,” but this is not always the case. Sometimes it is given to children in honor of a relative. This could be a father, a mother, an uncle, a grandfather, a grandmother, or even a brother or sister. IN in this case you could say that the middle name is a middle name, but in fact it is not.

Middle name in different countries

The middle name exists in many countries, but plays different roles:

1. Iceland. For example, in Iceland there is no such thing as a "surname". At birth, a child is given his personal name, and instead of a surname, he is given the name of his father (most often) or mother. In Iceland, the middle name is essentially a middle name. In this country, people get along just fine without last names, because its population is only 300,000 people.

2. Sweden. In this country, the middle name is, in fact, the second surname. At the time of marriage, spouses can write down their old or new surname as a middle name. As for children, they can take the surname of one of their parents as their middle name. Moreover, if desired, the middle name and surname can be swapped. In this case, the middle name is both a patronymic and a surname.

3. Israel. In this country, every child receives a double name at birth. The middle name is usually given in honor of a deceased relative, but names of living ones are also often given. The middle name is especially popular in religious families. The personal name is given by the parents at their discretion, and the middle name, as mentioned above, is given in honor of a relative or righteous person.

4. England. Statistics show that absolutely all English children at birth receive two names at once (first name + middle name). In England, middle names are a custom. Once upon a time there was a tradition, the essence of which was that a newborn child received several personal names at once. Today you can often find an Englishman having not only a second name, but even a third or fourth. This long tradition which almost everyone follows English families. More often you will meet people with four middle names than without them at all. In modern English law there is simply no such law that would limit the number of middle names. Therefore, parents in this country can give their children as many middle names as they wish. But there is an unspoken rule that there should be no more than four middle names.

Why do the English have a middle name?

The main meaning of the second name is to give a person some individuality. This is especially true for those who have an ordinary and common name, of which there are many in the environment. The middle name can be anything from a common name to geographical names, common nouns and so on. Very often, the second name is taken from the surname of the person after whom the child was named. There are times when a person's first name is forgotten because he doesn't like it. Thus, it remains only on documents, and in circulation the second name is used as the main one.

The article was prepared by the website of the company I-Polyglot -

Instructions

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Thus, the first and easiest way to find out your present second Name- ask about it from the godparents who were directly present at your christening, or - from your other close relatives who may have this information.

Method two is to find a baptismal certificate that indicates this information. The baptismal certificate can be kept by both the direct and the baptized person.

If the necessary information is forgotten by relatives, and the certificate of baptism, you need to find the one in which it was carried out and go there for the metric lists stored there, which should indicate data about all persons baptized in this church.

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